View Full Version : Facts about "Jana Gana Mana" - Just a thought for the National Anthem!
ameenullah
05-16-2006, 10:59 AM
Facts about "Jana Gana Mana" - Just a thought for the National Anthem!
How well do you know about it?
I have always wondered who is the "adhinayak" and "bharat bhagya vidhata", whose praise we are singing. I thought might be Motherland India!
Our current National Anthem "Jana Gana Mana" is sung throughout the country.
Did you know the following about our national anthem, I didn't.
To begin with, India's national anthem, Jana Gana Mana Adhinayaka, was written by Rabindranath Tagore in honor of King George V and the Queen of England when they visited India in 1919. To honor their visit Pandit Motilal Nehru had the five stanzas included, which are in praise of the King and queen. (And most of us think it is in the praise of our great motherland!!!)
In the original Bengali verses only those provinces that were under British rule, i.e. Punjab, Sindh, Gujarat, Maratha etc. were mentioned. None of the princely states were recognized which are integral parts of India now Kashmir, Rajasthan, Andhra, Mysore or Kerala. Neither the Indian Ocean nor the Arabian Sea was included, since they were directly under Portuguese rule at that time. The Jana Gana Mana Adhinayaka implies that King George V is the lord of the masses and Bharata Bhagya Vidhata is "the bestower of good fortune". Following is a translation of the five stanzas that glorify the King:
First stanza: (Indian) People wake up remembering your good name and ask for your blessings and they sing your glories. (Tava shubha naame jaage;tava shubha aashish maage, gaaye tava jaya gaatha)
Second stanza: Around your throne people of all religions come and give their love and anxiously wait to hear your kind words.
Third stanza: Praise to the King for being the charioteer, for leading the ancient travelers beyond misery.
Fourth stanza: Drowned in the deep ignorance and suffering, poverty-stricken, unconscious country? Waiting for the wink of your eye and your mother's (the Queen's) true protection.
Fifth stanza: In your compassionate plans, the sleeping Bharat(India)will wake up. We bow down to your feet O' Queen, and glory to Rajeshwara (the King).
This whole poem does not indicate any love for the Motherland but depicts a bleak picture. When you sing Jana Gana Mana Adhinayaka, whom are you glorifying? Certainly not the Motherland. Is it God? The poem does not indicate that.It is time now to understand the original purpose and the implication of this, rather than blindly sing as has been done the past fifty years. Nehru chose the present national anthem as opposed to Vande Mataram because he thought that it would be easier for the band to play!!! It was an absurd reason but Today for that matter bands have advanced and they can very well play any music.
So they can as well play Vande Mataram, which is a far better composition in praise of our dear
Motherland -India.Wake up, it's high time!
Shouldn't Vande Mataram be our National Anthem?
PLEASE CIRCUILATE THIS AMONG YOUR BUSINESS & FRIENDS CIRCLE & HELP TO CREATE THE AWARENESS ABOUT THIS IMPORTANT MATTER!!!!!!!!
If anyone feel its not Good to publish here, pls email me and let me know.
rohit khaitan
05-16-2006, 12:09 PM
hey . i heard this thing before as well.. But u think whatever u claim is factually correct?? OR some historical error published and circulated by some rogue.
Check out the facts before ciruclating this thing. Jana gana mana is not yet another song. its our national anthem.. So make doubly sure if ur correct with historical facts
here s a link on wikipedia that also mentions other part of the story..check it out.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jana_gana_mana.
whatever the conclusion may be i think when we sing it its to praise the motherland and no george, tom, dick or harry...
alpha
05-16-2006, 12:29 PM
whatever the conclusion may be... i think when we sing it its to praise the motherland and no george, tom, dick or harry...i agree with you rohit.
Our anthem proclaims the regional diversity we have.
But if it was written first to honor King George in his visit,i think we shud go in for "vande mataram",cause that fact can never be changed .
megrisoft
05-16-2006, 02:36 PM
thanks ameenullah , for sharing this precious meaning of our national anthem, very few people know about this in todays world , we really aprreciate ur feelings
rajesh
05-17-2006, 01:25 AM
it's ur orginal content or taken from anywhere. Ameenullah has added this content here in IB. this is imporatant for us. Thanks Ameenullah.
ameenullah
05-17-2006, 06:30 AM
it's ur orginal content or taken from anywhere. Ameenullah has added this content here in IB. this is imporatant for us. Thanks Ameenullah.
Its not my content, I got a mail from my friend. When I got this mail, I thought its good to circulate and get the conclution for this. Though we dont know the real fact, We respect and sing in praise of mother land only. what i personally feel is, if this is the fact(Written for the king), Its better to use "Vande mataram" Instead.
Also it should not become like, We are singing a song which is not written in praise of our Mother land. And simply using someone's. In that way its not good to feel that... we didnt even have a song purely written for our Mother land.
If we follow without knowing the fact, then its our mistake(we can rectify it), Even after knowing the fact, if we continue the same...then???
India1989
05-23-2006, 09:22 PM
Shut the hell up all you stupid dumb headed people. I am a bengali and i really know the meaning of this national anthem.
How could you disrespect it. How could you? DO you know what it means. No because it is in Bengali.
How could you say that. want to know what it actually means.
here it is.\
Thou are the ruler of the minds of all people, dispenser of India's destiny.
The name rouses the hearts of Punjab, Sind, Gujurat and Maratha. Of the Dravid and Orissa and Bengal.
It Echoes in the hills of Vindhyas and Himalayas, mingles in the music of Yamuna and Ganga and is chanted by the waves of the Indian Sea.
They pray for your blessing and sing thy praise. The salvation of all peaople is thy hand, thou dispenser of India's destiny. Victory, Victory, Victory to thee.
so keep sleeping. If you guys wake up . India will be destroyed.
alpha
05-24-2006, 05:03 PM
cool down India1989....the controversy is nothin connected with d fact that it was written in bengalese language,as u said in the lounge
u can look at the wiki site about the controversy....
ameenullah
05-25-2006, 11:11 AM
Dear India1989, here we are talking about the fact that we really doesnt know! We are not blaming any language. And in no way we are telling that we are not praising, We are here discussing about the fact how it came into existance... and what we are following!
So cool down! And try to get the solution...
miqsh
05-25-2006, 10:21 PM
that is a hot headed fellow there. touch the wrong spot and explosions only occur
India1989
05-26-2006, 08:32 PM
ok i will calm down. But the meaning you gave about the national anthem is not right.
Its like saying that the meaning of "i like you" is i don't like you.
Its simple. The meaning is what i just gave you. So what's the discussion about. Well if you want we can still discuss. But all i know is that it doesn't mean that India is loyal to British something as you had posted.
Anyways sorry for the explosion. I got mad when i read the post by pakifoji. I couldn't control myself.
Ravindra Nath Tagore was the greate minded person.
He was not desire to any benifit from the government.
His each poem, articles and messages are indicate any other supreme power. who is unreachable and untouchable.
Tagore indicate Matribhumi is as greate as God.
His poem indicate Actual thinking and mentality of Indian People
now read Care fully this poem Again.
I translate it to english also
"Jan Gan Man Adhinayak Jai He"
( I Pray the leader who is leaving and rule in the mind of common and urban people )
--- Here Tagor indicate not only to the prime power but to the Most popular and ascient kings of India Like Ram. who are still in indian peoples thinking.
"Bharat Bhagya Vidhata"
( Builder of Indian future )
--- No any poet of India can give so much respect to any of emporor that he is buider of future of any country. It will only the prime power.
"Tav shubh name jage
tav shubh ashish mange
gahe tav jay gatha"
( We wake up at morning by remembering your name,
We want your order to do any work,
We sing ur stories)
--- Now this is common habbit of an Indian people.
at early morning each Indian remember his/ her Mother and father, respected persons and God.
No any indian want to remember British rural at morning.
According to indian Vedas we have to work for dedicating to God.
"tav shubh ashish mange " indicate this openion.
any person remember his God or ideol before starting any work.
and "gahe tav jai gatha " is common habbit of indian that they pray to God by singing and remembering his ascent stories. like Geeta and Ramayan.
" Jai he Jai he Jai he
Jai Jai Jai Jai he"
this is Indian Aarti rule that at the end of Aarti, people call JaijaiKar at loud speak.
We always cal after this poem.
"Bharat Mata Ki .... Jai "
India1989
06-02-2006, 11:49 AM
Actually some people say that Jai he Jai he and Jai he is "Victory, Victory, Victory to India".
But this national anthem doesn't mean to pay tribute to Britishers. If it was it would've had worlds like Bilet or Forsa.
onlinepreetu
06-12-2006, 02:01 AM
Thanks ameenullah!!! For sharing that lovely information with us… I came across jana gana mana by A R Rahman - I have no words (http://insaneinstincts.blogspot.com/2006/05/jana-gana-mana-by-r-rahman-i-have-no.html) !! Thought u wuld like it… just check it out….
The exclusive Jana Gana Man (http://leos3883.blogspot.com/2006/03/jana-gana-mana.html)
:D
India1989
06-23-2006, 07:32 AM
Thanks for sharing the video with us onlinepreetu.
star_haris
06-29-2006, 07:21 PM
hi friends,
when we doesn't know wat "JANA GANA MANA" really means we don't have the right to blame or jus caste our vote to rumours.
there are controversies going on but until all Bengali brothers claim that this is not written in respect of our "MOTHERLAND" it is better to keep our mouths zipped.
I am not criticizing anyone..jus clarify first before speak out.....
India1989
06-30-2006, 04:06 PM
THanks very much haris for the post. It is true. And i appreciate what you have written.
As I am a Bengali i know that it is with due respect to our motherland India. It never even states anything foreign.
And i have a lot of Bengali friends and they also think the same as me and all the professors also think the same as me.
star_haris
07-04-2006, 06:14 PM
Thank you for the support India1989.I just expressed my view on the controversies.
India1989
07-06-2006, 09:42 AM
ur welcome. I also tried to say the same thing and you helped me over here. With your arguments you actually backed me up. I think you are one of the few people who backed me up. and thanks for that.
star_haris
07-08-2006, 12:54 AM
of course,that was true that a Benali can understand wat really Jana gana mana..... means.
Anyway nice to meet u here in this grp n moreover luck is mine.......
India1989
07-08-2006, 07:51 AM
Nice to meet you too haris.
onlinepreetu
07-11-2006, 08:13 PM
Thanks for sharing the video with us onlinepreetu.
You are welcome… and even I agree with both of you… a Bengali can truly understand the meaning of JANA GANA MANA… I remember in my school days we had a Hindi singing teacher who was a Bengali and how particular she was about all of us pronouncing and singing the Jana Gana Man properly…
:)
India1989
07-12-2006, 05:37 AM
thanks for everyone's support for India's national anthem. You are right onlinepreetu. One should not make wrong meanings out of India's national anthem when they don't know what it means. If Jana Gana Mana means paying tribute to England then Bengalis woudln't have accepted it as our national anthem. Jana Gana Mana pays tribute to India and Rabindranath sang this song in the praise of India and against the British rule during that time after he rejected the Night reward which was going to be awarded by Britishers during that time.
star_haris
07-13-2006, 07:41 AM
Yes,I do agree with the idea........
I got a mail from my friend a few months back....It was disgusting to any Indian that Laloo Prasad yadav n his wife Rabri Devi(at tht time she was Chief Minister of Bihar) sat relaxed looking at a brochure at an Independence day function where all the others were standing n singing "Jana Gana Mana........."are those the leaders who r going to rule India?How pity it is?n we selected them as usual......
Friends,this is a simple example n all most all the political leaders are in the same ship.......but a little better.....tht's it.Some of my friends are ashamed of singing National Anthem...........we should pay tribute to our country,it is the first right of Indian citizen............Feel proud when ever u sing Jana Gana Mana.........
India1989
07-13-2006, 04:22 PM
yeah i remember. They were just sitting. They are the worst ministers ever. They are now out of any minister thingy but sad thing is that Laloo is our railway minister. Man that was the saddest day ever. people who are ashamed to sing the national anthem should be ashamed of themselves. I and some of my friends look down with shame at those Indians in Canada who doesn't respect our national anthem. THey have no respect in the Indian society over here and they themselves suffer later.
Those people are useless. We all should feel proud and respect our national anthem whenever they are sung.
SLASH
07-14-2006, 01:42 AM
I can't believe people actually follow wikipeadia.Anyone can edit that article.I can go over there and write that it was meant for King SLASH and not King George :cool: .
And about Laloo Yadav and Rabdi,should we even care whether they stand up for the national anthem.they are still gonna remain lousy leaders(although Laloo's doing wonders for railways these days).
India1989
07-14-2006, 08:21 AM
i know eh. Now i think Wikipedia sucks. ANyone can go there and write anything they wish. We can go and write anything bad. WOw that's great. Now i am gonn creat havoc in that site watch.
star_haris
07-16-2006, 11:49 PM
To the best of my knowledge,Laloo is the Worst leader of India n it is really a very sad to say that he is the Railway Minister.He was already involved in "Grass" scheme n how he can be believed this time tht he won't do any other scam???
India1989,if it is Canada,then it can have atleast a concession.But these stupids living in India feel shame to sung Jana Gana Mana.......
India1989
07-17-2006, 03:00 PM
man i think Laloo should face the worst punishment ever. I dont' know that how can people tolerate them. He's the worst. how can one not stand during the national anthem. Whats wrong with him. Seriously looking at his face makes me so mad and angry. Man may God punish him.
star_haris
07-18-2006, 12:59 AM
ha ha ha........We saw only Laloo n we have many many great great :p politicians like him......
He is ONE of the worst,tht's it!!!!!!
Lets stop discussing abt politicians n welcome some more ideas regarding the thread on which we started talking........
miqsh
07-18-2006, 10:31 AM
i know eh. Now i think Wikipedia sucks. ANyone can go there and write anything they wish. We can go and write anything bad. WOw that's great. Now i am gonn creat havoc in that site watch.
soumo, to think that we did research from that, :eek: what if the british woman realized it now?? :rolleyes: she is a crazy women u know that.
India1989
07-18-2006, 01:31 PM
lmao. miqsh man you are super crazy. nice idea and you are giving it to me now. I would have actually changed everything and would have kept what i was going to write. lol. hahahaha. :D . That British woman was really a psycho. If you see this russell peter video on this British people he makes fun of htem. YOu are gonna laugh your ass off.
man. lol. I also realized that what she would have thought if she knew that we could edit it. I think she never realized it. i will edit every research now in grade 12. what do you say miqsh. Is that a way we can increase our marks.
miqsh
07-19-2006, 10:35 AM
go ahead with ur wild plans
India1989
07-26-2006, 04:04 PM
yea sure but you can help me. I can't imagine but they write lots of wrong things about India in wikipedia. No correct information. Barely and right information.
vBulletin v3.5.5, Copyright ©2000-2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.