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keshto patel
04-13-2005, 08:56 AM
A Destitute Hindu
Sometimes I feel, India may not be a rudderless ship (136 Billion Forex), it is that Indians may be navigating International waters without a compass (they lack CDC). Or there are too many captains of the calm sea on board S.S.INDIA, (mind you I never said M.V.INDIA, big difference -- one is steam ship, the other a motor vessel) But does not the GOI know that too many cooks spoil the broth?
This is what is exactly happening with our India, if New Delhi is something to be looked at, For we have quasi junk, dormant, do-nothing PMO on one side, untutored MEA on the other hand which is busy producing mother of all blunders a la Korea (yes, nukes are big mistake of India), Nepal (no Indian arms for it, only Pak-China), Vatican (mourning blunder) and finally a queen Sonia with crown sans Indian Monarchy, with yes mam stooges a la Ahmed Patels.
Too many crooks spoil the brothel.
With above unique qualities full of petty character, why do you think western nations would give us any respect? Don't these nations fully know, that even a country like Sudan is better than India on certain terms?
Sudan, being a pariah state of course, nevertheless, this tiny winy country has never been stamped as soft state, lamb state, comatose country, rudderless ship and all other contemptuous names synonyms with India. This smaller country is capable of defying UN a la Darfur, do what they think is good for them a la China (although it may not be), but they have the resolve, which India lacks big time.
What good is your gun if you cannot fire it?
When is the last time we played a hardball with pony Bangladesh - leave mighty US alone for a moment? In an international arena India is like a burger with bone, whiskey without alcohol, that nobody desires. Look at Mister Modi who was cloned as Castro by State Dept scientists because he possesses all the qualities to be the future Prime Minister of India.
Writing is on the sky, Look at the pregnant Falcons flying with a womb (nukes).
Indians should not be asked what is wrong with them, everything is wrong since inception of Mughul Raj of India, Mahatma Gandhi's FIR was filed in Urdu language, Jawaharlal Nehru was upbeat on Farsi than Hindi language, our Rajya Sabha members a la Shabana and Kuldeeps are busy protecting Islamic terrorists and questioning our police instead (ansal plaza), rather they should be asked what is right with them. If Indians cant care for their own survival -- nothing is right with them -- never will be.
Gone are those days of cavemen's world, where crime did strike first, police came later, right now we live in a lawful society bound by ethics n constitution and not otherwise, hence the onus is on our premiers and chiefs of the Indian high command to ensure that they deliver the prudent and conducive environment for us Indians to live in which we should be free from corrupt clutches of Laloos, Shahi imams of India and Dawoods of Pakistan and survive peacefully -- to thrive in India seems to be the luxury.
Haji Mastan is long dead but long liveth Dawood Ibrahim with star and crescent empire of Islam, who with his giant robotic arm, transfers Indian resources to Islamabad, with his multi million extortion empire, whose victims are exclusively Hindus -- there is no stop to Hindu misery; http://www.indiacause.com/columns/OL_050324.htm
I am sorry, but our own secular Hindus are not realizing what is waiting in the wings for them, come September. Why do they always think hunky dory despite Sabarmati Express a la Godhra, Ghatkoper Bomb Blast, Coimbatore Bomb Blast, Bombay Bomb Blast, where a series of fifteen massive explosions rocked the length and breadth of Bombay, India on Friday, March 12, 1993? The blasts, which killed at least two hundred and twenty-eight people and injured more than 1,200, reportedly struck several Bombay neighborhoods simultaneously.
Don't worry, that was, after all, the same thinking of those rich Hindus of Hyderabad under Nizam's rule and those of Noakhali, who got decimated and got converted ultimately. It would be your turn next, if you don't mend your ways of Ishwar-Allah and Ram-O-Rahim a la Gandhi.
Nearly half a million Kashmiri Hindu Pundits are still knocking some doors without success.
Hindus better be proud villains of today than a poor victims of tomorrow.
Turn the tide on phony seculars by thinking 3D.
Keshto Patel.
kunal
04-21-2005, 12:16 AM
hey man gota admit i am starting to become a fan of ur articles!!! u seem to be a harcore kinda guy! i almost entirely agree with your ideas.
good work keep going!
Vikram
04-23-2005, 08:38 AM
India is INDIA not because it is Hundu-ka-sthaan but rather because it is hindustan.
I do not think by being a rastrawadi hindu you will rid all ills and redeem india... infact it is the very fact that secularism exists in a weird way makes India an envy.
The problem is not the people of the country.. rather those who you choose and elect to run for offices. And when it comes to that.....it eventually breaks down to NOT religion, NOT communities.. but rather people in general.. be it hindu or muslim or neither.
keshto patel
04-24-2005, 04:22 AM
India is INDIA not because it is Hundu-ka-sthaan but rather because it is hindustan..
Hindustan means land of hindus, If you dont like it, call it Bharat.
I do not think by being a rastrawadi hindu you will rid all ills and redeem india... infact it is the very fact that secularism exists in a weird way makes India an envy.
For every country to grow and be strong, you need to have national interests which most indians lack. And then look at chinese, is there any incident where chinese were kicked to curb internationally and did not get response from China in cash or kind?
The problem is not the people of the country.. rather those who you choose and elect to run for offices. And when it comes to that.....it eventually breaks down to NOT religion, NOT communities.. but rather people in general.. be it hindu or muslim or neither.
Your above statement is ambigous when you say Indian people are not responsible. It is the very Indians who ELECT wrong leaders.
Who would you blame if laloo prasad came to power? the voters/electorate is not it?
Is it possible for mature americans or europeans to elected a criminal to the top?
Its gullible Indians.
Our people.
keshto patel
04-24-2005, 04:30 AM
hey man gota admit i am starting to become a fan of ur articles!!! u seem to be a harcore kinda guy! i almost entirely agree with your ideas.
good work keep going!
Thanks Kunal.
PS: dont be the fan of my articles, be an airconditioner;)
Did you read this: http://www.india-forum.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=814
Vikram
04-27-2005, 10:00 PM
means land of hindus??? REALLY!!
Lets kick every non-hindu out of india then??? sounds resonable to you??
Do not make a big issue of this word .. and try to sound patriotic... you would sound more or less like how a Taliban is potrayed in the west.
China is strong not just because of its nationalism - but because of its communism.. and in more harsher terms a "soft-dictatorship".. where people do not get to express their views and ideas openly... be happy ur not in China.. else u wud havenot had the oppurtunity to express yourself like you do in India.
China also has its position because of the permanent seat in UN given to it after WWII... that has been a major point for it to drive leverage from western countries.. unlike india.
So when Indians elected an IDIOT like laloo... I suppose hindus voted for him too????
Im sure not one religion or community can be singled out for the problems of india. Muslims, Chirstians and people from all faith can live together.. preach and practise their religion and still make a stronger nation....
going ballistic about hindu.. hindu... hindustan... place for hindus.. is not going to make u successful.... its only going to help more dumb-ass people like Bal Thackery, Laloos, Paswans, VP singhs... to have a feast over your HARD EARNED RUPEES.
If you want to do something for INDIA and for yourself.. promote NATIONALISM... instead of talking nonsense about urdu/hindi/muslim/hindu..etc.
I feel strongly about these things becuase people in India are still like little kids fighting over stupid things.. and crying over something that isnt even an issue.
Do good business,
launch new products,
invent new things,
setup new industries,
pay your taxes honestly and
say no to curruption,
improve your judiciary and
make politicans accountable,
work hard and earn money,
contribute to the economy and
become a player in international trade,
challenge your competitors countries (china), see how you can bring down the costs and get that business,
make processes to do things better, cheaper, faster and IMPLEMENT those processes.
......... instead of talking about FIR that was done some 60 years AGO talk about 2005 and 2006 instead of talking about 1993.
JUST GROW UP.
keshto patel
04-30-2005, 06:30 AM
[QUOTE]means land of hindus??? REALLY!!
Lets kick every non-hindu out of india then??? sounds resonable to you??
Is there any precedent as such in any democratic country to kick out people? why set one then?
Do not make a big issue of this word .. and try to sound patriotic... you would sound more or less like how a Taliban is potrayed in the west.
You are worried about how you would be perceived by the west? they already know where india stands and are busy day in day out to thwart its progress.
China is strong not just because of its nationalism - but because of its communism.. and in more harsher terms a "soft-dictatorship".. where people do not get to express their views and ideas openly... be happy ur not in China.. else u wud havenot had the oppurtunity to express yourself like you do in India.
So why is kerala and west bengal lagging behind?
China also has its position because of the permanent seat in UN given to it after WWII... that has been a major point for it to drive leverage from western countries.. unlike india.
And who was instrumental in giving chinese UNSC gift? your fookin nehru, right?
So when Indians elected an IDIOT like laloo... I suppose hindus voted for him too????
So is the case with jayalailita too.
Im sure not one religion or community can be singled out for the problems of india. Muslims, Chirstians and people from all faith can live together.. preach and practise their religion and still make a stronger nation....
In India no, but in other countries with tougher punishment like Singapore, USA, china yes. India no.
going ballistic about hindu.. hindu... hindustan... place for hindus.. is not going to make u successful.... its only going to help more dumb-ass people like Bal Thackery, Laloos, Paswans, VP singhs... to have a feast over your HARD EARNED RUPEES.
Bal thakrey is a counter force against muslim gundas of Mumbai, you better know that.
If you want to do something for INDIA and for yourself.. promote NATIONALISM... instead of talking nonsense about urdu/hindi/muslim/hindu..etc.
And how is islam compatible with nationalism where hindus are the majority? dont you know under Islam khuda parsati comes first, watan parsati later??
I feel strongly about these things becuase people in India are still like little kids fighting over stupid things.. and crying over something that isnt even an issue.
The issue is not here, not now, but the planning must start earlier to nip the issue in its bud.
Do good business,
launch new products,
invent new things,
setup new industries,
pay your taxes honestly and
say no to curruption,
improve your judiciary and
make politicans accountable,
work hard and earn money,
contribute to the economy and
become a player in international trade,
challenge your competitors countries (china), see how you can bring down the costs and get that business,
make processes to do things better, cheaper, faster and IMPLEMENT those processes.
Nothing wrong.
......... instead of talking about FIR that was done some 60 years AGO talk about 2005 and 2006 instead of talking about 1993.
Its called the awakening process.
JUST GROW UP.
I am grown up already whereas you sound teenager to me.
Vikram
05-03-2005, 03:39 PM
:rolleyes:
no dost! tumhari baat mein dum nahin hai
keshto patel
05-05-2005, 12:49 AM
no dost! tumhari baat mein dum nahin hai
Could not come up with any better, other than this one liner?
Vikram
05-07-2005, 07:44 AM
Could not come up with any better, other than this one liner?
I am not here to fight!! I am here to bring forward my opinions and share with rest of the people. I wrote what I felt above... your arguement had no points valid enough for me to waste time and reply back to.
But if you insist... what you call awakening, is not really a awakening process. What it actually is the same logic and emotions politicians use to create communal tensions in a country like INDIA.
Pakistan was born as a muslim state for muslims... India was not born on "a hindu state" philosophy. So please don't give me that arguement. Besides, I never said Islam is related to nationalism.. what I wrote was "If you want to do something for INDIA and for yourself.. promote NATIONALISM... instead of talking nonsense about urdu/hindi/muslim/hindu..etc."
We've never had a real politican in India, we've never had a man of integrity running the show .. most people who got elected tried to push their own agenda instead of moving the country forward. We had lot of politicians and leaders but no one with a long term vision to move India forward.
Nehru had some idea where to go after Parition... the work that he did to build initial Infrastructure cannot be overlooked...but again, his efforts did fell short.
The only person I beleive could have made thechange was Sanjay Gandhi but he did not live long enough to fix everything.
We have the far liberals.. who believe in giving in to the demands of hindus and muslims... take whatever you want and do whatever you like. Then we have far right wing folks like you.. who do not want to see anything beyond the hindu religion... who do not care who care less about humanity and more about the person's religion.
What we lack is someone who thinks beyond religion, regionalism, caste, etc...for whom India is not a temple of mosque but rather a community of people working to succeed together as one.
take a look around, countries that have succeeded are ones that kept religion on the side and not on the front burner.
(please do not give me examples of middle east countries because their success comes from nothing else but OIL)
I am not a teenager.. although I wish I was.
keshto patel
05-07-2005, 10:54 PM
[QUOTE]I am not here to fight!! I am here to bring forward my opinions and share with rest of the people. I wrote what I felt above... your arguement had no points valid enough for me to waste time and reply back to.
But you have wasted time with the folowing anyway.
But if you insist... what you call awakening, is not really a awakening process. What it actually is the same logic and emotions politicians use to create communal tensions in a country like INDIA.
What makes you think I am politician type? do I have such an agenda to get elected? So how do u infer as such?
Pakistan was born as a muslim state for muslims... India was not born on "a hindu state" philosophy. So please don't give me that arguement. Besides, I never said Islam is related to nationalism.. what I wrote was "If you want to do something for INDIA and for yourself.. promote NATIONALISM... instead of talking nonsense about urdu/hindi/muslim/hindu..etc."
How can muslims be nationalistic in India who have allegiance to mecca and beleive in khuda parsati first watan parsati later?
We've never had a real politican in India, we've never had a man of integrity running the show .. most people who got elected tried to push their own agenda instead of moving the country forward. We had lot of politicians and leaders but no one with a long term vision to move India forward.
Nehru had some idea where to go after Parition... the work that he did to build initial Infrastructure cannot be overlooked...but again, his efforts did fell short.
Nehru was a culprite, so much is wriiten against this bastard which puts a credeblity dent in his work and character, no wonder son of a beach died of sexual transmitted desease.LOLL
The only person I beleive could have made thechange was Sanjay Gandhi but he did not live long enough to fix everything.
And the guy was ruthless anti muslim, how did u like him and not modi?
We have the far liberals.. who believe in giving in to the demands of hindus and muslims... take whatever you want and do whatever you like. Then we have far right wing folks like you.. who do not want to see anything beyond the hindu religion... who do not care who care less about humanity and more about the person's religion.
You would find such fabric in any democratic society, no wonder.
But think of muslims first, are they caring about humanity with their jehadic instincts?
What we lack is someone who thinks beyond religion, regionalism, caste, etc...for whom India is not a temple of mosque but rather a community of people working to succeed together as one.
There are various fundamentals whn you plan a strategic thinking viz; Economy-Arms-Race-religion. Thats why USA-CIA is busy with plans to convert each Indian zip code with christians, and such is their plan for China.
What would be India without Hindus?
take a look around, countries that have succeeded are ones that kept religion on the side and not on the front burner.
And such countries are JUST waking up to islam-jehad, something that India has known/faced for centuries. Russia with chechens, USA with 9/11, netherland with van gogh, France with 5 million muslim trouble makers, so is england now. shall I say more about chinese-uighiri muslims?
japan is lucky with no muslims, hence no turmoil.
Go and learn more of islam first which is bound to bring forth 4th world war, learn the kuran first - the manual of terrorism which hates kafars like you.
Did not you see how two muslim governors ( SC Jamir and rizvi sibti ) tried to kill indian democracy by thwarting local BJP governments in GOA and jharkhand?
And what about muslim chamcha of sonia ahmed patel?
man you are naive about Indian politics with muslim inputs, and gullible abt islam.
gupta
06-06-2005, 08:20 PM
Hindustan means land of hindus, If you dont like it, call it Bharat.
For That matter....Can anyone out here define HINDU......
dear..Hindu means a citizen of Hindustan..Bharat..India..Aryavart...call it by any name......not to say every citizen of india is a hindu and worships hindu gods...follows hindu customs and all.....but Yes the tradition of India is made of hinduism..
Hinduism is not just a religion...preaching worship of trinity by name of Brahma Vishnu Mahesh.....Hinduism is the way of life of indians....its just that the atmosphere today in india is such that we see people as hindus/muslims/sikhs etc.....
Nobody ever says Christianity is a european religion..or islam is arabic....but yes the truth is that at these very places...life is modelled on these very religions irrespective of whether the countries that exist in these regions are secular or communal..Same goes to hinduism and India...
And again.....To those who don't know the story behind the name "BHARAT"....Bharat is the name of india named after ancient(may be mythical/prehistoric) ruler of india "King Bharat".....again a HINDU ruler.......
Just to say u can't separate Hindu from India......and presence of Hindu does no harm to india's multicultured,multi religious colours
yinguobing
06-07-2005, 04:13 PM
generally, indian are perceived as servants in western comunity!
i do not know why it is being so.
but it is surely a indignity for all indian people!
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