about indians studying in china

[iwumuyi]

namaster! im a chinese guy, im just curious about indians students in china, i wonder if anyone in this forum has friends or relatives studying china, can u tell what are subject are they studying and why they choose to study in china, okay, so much for this, i just wish these questions dont push u too hard doesnt take too much of ur surfing time. thanks in advance

[snower]

come on, indian science and technique is 20 years ahead china, how come indian student go to study in china? our indian is going to send a man to the moon soon, our technique is superb... em...

[bhachoudhary]

ignore the idiot snower pal...when he opens his mouth he stinks of stupidity.
truth is many indians go outside to study, mostly to US. I am sure some go to china too and they will answer your ques.

[sunilkumar]

In china most of things are in chines language...

Indian prefer UK, Australia, Canada & USA cause of language...

To study in china ...Indian student have to learn chines ;) first

[sunilkumar]

Problems currently existing within Chinese higher education system

In December 1977, Chinese government recorded the examination for higher education which marked the Chinese education system reformation from the "Great Cultural Revolution" and ended "the recommended systems for entrance of higher education." As a social consequence, all students were so encouraged to follow this policy that they began to understand that the fortune was no longer left to tender mercy of officials at various levels, but depended on the efforts of one's knowledge, and students began to make much effort in an all-time concentration of learning.

Now, Chinese higher education systems, which were established since the reform in 1977, have been carried out, and have been developed for more than 20 years. When we review and meditate up on this system, we can find out some negative phenomenon. Under this system, there were so many compulsory subjects that they forced all students to develop at a same pace. Therefore, it was impossible to groom the student individually, which is inevitable to train higher level talent.

Problem 1: The specialization is so detailed that the student can not acquire an adequate background knowledge beyond their specialization field

Problem 2: Distorted concept of result from scientific researching and distorted concept of talent person. In China, most higher education institutions must undertake some scientific researching programs. However, for the scientific researching in Chinese higher education system, it is difficulty to combine scientific researching results with social practice especially in economics and accounting. Under this scientific researching system, the most scientific researching result that can be easily recognized by various officials is only the published paper. A person who has the ability to do something practically can not be regarded as a talented person. While a person who has published papers can be easily regarded as talented, while the published paper is only the symbol of talent capacity. As a result, so many papers are in a bid for publication, some people pay money for publication, but few ideas can be introduce into practice, especially in economics and accounting

Problem 3: So many subjects were designed form the view of current circumstances rather than considered useful for the future. In Chinese higher education institutions, there are many tedious subjects that required students to learn, and the student are so reluctant t to learn that they only cram.

Problem 4: There are so much trash in the textbook of some specialization subjects, especially in accounting. as accounting teacher in Wuyi University , first, I should show you one of such trash in Chinese accounting textbooks. In the textbook of accounting principal, which is for the university student, it says:
"When you record the books you should use a blue of black pen, and the records must be in the order of date, one by one, and line by line to record all transaction, and the number figures you write should occupy the two-third of a box and transaction, and the number figures you write should occupy the two-third of a box and should be in italic.......The description of each transaction should be written in standard Chinese characters, moreover would be in a simplest and clear way. You should record it in earnest. Nonetheless do not ignore recording any on transaction and do not record any one transaction twice, and after recording you should make an asterisk on the voucher and then...."
(Accounting principle, Designated textbook for Xiamn university, edited by Ge Jiashu, general editor, page 108-112, and 118-120. Liaoning people's publish house 1996 edition)

How tedious and how verbose it is! The author might further write as "you should record books with you right hand rather than your left hand." Should such tedious sentence appear in he textbook for university students. How can I honesty teach my students from such a textbook? I always complain that I am not teaching a primary pupil, but I am teaching a university student.

Problem 5: In Chinese higher education, teachers always introduce the obsolete knowledge to their students. What should we teach our student? Every teacher must face this question. With the Chinese traditional view, teachers always are regarded as persons who can introduce the ancestor's experience. However, in the contemporary world, this view has face a challenge. Now, it is more important that a teacher can introduce the development and future of technology and science compared with introducing the ancestor's experience

Problem 6: So many examination are with characteristics of lottery. When the Test of English as a foreign Language (TOFL) was introduced into China, most of all the subjects in Chinese high education, gradually adopted the TOFL examination style that contained only three or four question styles, such as: 1) Multiple choice question, 2) Filling in blanks, 3) False and truth, 4) Answer in main point, More over now in China, most teacher regard the question style of TOFL is a standard of examination and if any examination style is not like it, the style would be regard as a violation of some what rules of offense

Before you type words in the writer of the windows and in the menu of edit, which of the following items is unavailable?
A. Copy
B. Links
C. Insert object
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Such a question is easy to understand when the student uses the software but it would be very difficult to remember. As a result of this examination style, a student, who can use the computer well, can not be sure to get higher marks in this examination.

By :- Yang Xu Hin, Wuyi University, China

[sunilkumar]

By Me :- (Sunilkumar)


In India : The specialization is so detailed that the student can acquire an adequate background knowledge beyond their specialization field.

In India : Talent is always recognized, but being lot of population most of people don’t get opportunity to show their talent and few policy of govt to have reservation etc. is also responsible for this.

In India: So many subjects were designed form the view of current circumstances as well as considering usefulness of it in future. But few problem is their related to History book.

In India: Text book is their till our 12th STD or grade which is very essential, which actually create base for student that also give good idea about its own culture, in college (graduation and Post-graduation) we study reference book related to syllabus & topic of specialization. Reference books are of different author we get good idea and opinion of different author.

In Indian: Entrance Exam are like TOFL (I can say objective) which actually check the aptitude of student before allowing that student to take his course. This is always true how much good you are you have to prove it, so to clear exam is a standard, without clearing exam people do have knowledge. After clearing any exam people get confidence about their knowledge which is most important.

In India: In higher studies examination are not lottery that can only be lottery if some teacher or checker of paper is dabu (without knowledge).

In India: We don’t teach student keeping traditional view, we teach them according to current scenario and demand of today’s world.

In India: Child learns traditional value and cultural moral from their family itself.

Biggest problem is we are teaching wrong history to our coming generation. Some people are like god in our history … that makes me laugh … we do have to understand all human being and race have some drawback and faults… no-one is perfect, we should try to improve our self…. Past is never going to come .. he he he :D take care of our present it will make better future …;)

Second Biggest Problem We also don't have proper Infrastructure for school in our villages

[Punjabi]

I don't believe that Chinese education system is any better than India. IMO, only students who want to study about China - language, culture, history etc. would go to China.

[mcalan]

I don't believe that Chinese education system is any better than India. IMO, only students who want to study about China - language, culture, history etc. would go to China.

To great extent i do agree.....we waste a lot of time on some useless subjects like communisim etc...i hope we can learn from India in this regards...India engineer education is superior to us too..

[India1989]

Some Indian students want to study Chinese and that's why they go to China and study. I don't see any other reason why thy would go over there.

[mcalan]

Some Indian students want to study Chinese and that's why they go to China and study. I don't see any other reason why thy would go over there.


This is narrow minded idea...without going to China, u guys won't know how backward you are........of course u guys are better than us like banking system and software but no more. from my point of view....i hv been to ur coutry dozens of times and witnessed its development but still around 20 years backward compared with China. and about 50 years after Japan...i don't wanna debate about this...just come and see. it is good for your guys to open eyes........

[sunandadhawan]

each country has some different qualities and to adapt or learn that thing some eger indians go to china 4 studies.