Has India lost its identity?

[hbrant]

It amazing how entire populations get influenced by the worldwide trends of today. India is at the proverbial crossroads. Does it become more "westernised" or keep its traditional culture?

It's a pity people don't realise the major changes that are happening right in front of us.

There is a very interesting book that every Indian person should read. It's been recommended in this forum before:
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[rohit khaitan]

The very debate on whether we get westernised or more traditional is kind of wierd.

We have heads on our shoulders to decide what to do and what not. We dont have to buy everything from the west and we dont need to carry the burden of those traditions of the past that are useless in the present society.

Thats exactly what most of the people in India do. We still support our parents in their old age, we still help our neighbours without expecting a favour in return.

We wear jeans alright but we still wear kurta with it. Its about choosing the best. Not about being western or indian.

We are not racist like a very large population out there in white countries. But we also acknowedge their competence in commerce and industry and try to learn from them.

While we know that we have a better social and spiritual system in place we also accept the fact that they are better professionally. And there are things we could learn from them.

As it appears that this book is propbably written by an indian. i have seen many foreign authors coming on a short trip to india and writing books on india. They understand half the stuff and conveniently believe and propagate what they see through their coloured glasses fully convinced that theirs is the only possible and right perspective.


And lastly there is a separate place in this forum for advertising. So we will be greatful to u if u do it just there.

[India1989]

Nope India hasn't lost its identity. They have very well maintained it.

[snower]

Nope India hasn't lost its identity. They have very well maintained it.

ya! do you have different identities for different caste?

Do you share the same identity with a dalit (e.g. neo on this forum) ?

obviously, the mongoloid people in the northeast don't share the same identity with you. they are killing hindu's.

[observer]

idiot many mongoloids themselves are hindus. Nepalese mongoloids are Hindus, Manipuri mongoloids are Hindus. Many others are.

[Omni]

Okay back to the question - and remove this snower freak.

India did not completely lose its identity. But is made into believing that it did.

[India1989]

yeah India has not lost it's identity. Only in metropolitan cities they are a bit western but overall India has completely retained its identity.

[sunandadhawan]

No india doesn't lost its identity. As number of fields are there where india is holding top positions. there are number of exempals you can see. in peace india is number one, in religion india is number one,in production of many items india is number one, now india is also making its place in IT sector. So there are many more areas where india is leading. Also the culture, the religion we had we dont lost it which is the main part of india's identity.

[snower]

Do indian have an identity?

Before british colonization was india a unified country?

Do dalit people share the same identity with other castes?

Do indain Muslim share the same identity with hindus?

If india didn't lose identity why you use english for communication on a forum?

Do you have a forum in hindu language?

Don't cheat yourself, indian.

[Neo]

Do indian have an identity?

Before british colonization was india a unified country?

Do dalit people share the same identity with other castes?

Do indain Muslim share the same identity with hindus?

If india didn't lose identity why you use english for communication on a forum?

Do you have a forum in hindu language?

Don't cheat yourself, indian.

idiot chinese, here are the answers to ur questions

yes india was a unified country before the british rule. thats why i tell u to go back to school stupid chinese. have u heard of maurya empire, gupta empire and mughal rule? all these gave continious regimes for more centuries than u chinese can dream of. read some history books before opening ur mouth on a forum.

we use english to communicate on this forum exactly because we have not lost our identity. speaking english doesn't make us cows like u are. we still speak our own language at home, our culture is still the same, our religion is still the same. u copy cats neither have ur culture, religion nor anything else preserved now. ur just copies coming out of the communist factory.

national identity is above religion u idiot. if muslims would not share the same identity the would have gone to pakistan in 1947, but they stayed out of their own choice. when pakistan attacked india, muslims fought against pakistan. such things are beyond the understanding of mules like u. know why? because u were programmed to be just like any other mule ur communist government manufactures...:D

as for a forum in hindi, since ur an idiot u will not understand that hindi is not the only language spoken in india. unlike china where if ur government asks u to eat s**t, u will eat it for the fear of ur life- in india hindi or english is not forced on anyone. its easier to maintain a forum in english with the php technology and thats why forums are in english. u wouldn't understand unicode and such terms so is no use explaining that to u dumbo...hihihi

[snower]

idiot chinese, here are the answers to ur questions

yes india was a unified country before the british rule. thats why i tell u to go back to school stupid chinese. have u heard of maurya empire, gupta empire and mughal rule? all these gave continious regimes for more centuries than u chinese can dream of. read some history books before opening ur mouth on a forum.

we use english to communicate on this forum exactly because we have not lost our identity. speaking english doesn't make us cows like u are. we still speak our own language at home, our culture is still the same, our religion is still the same. u copy cats neither have ur culture, religion nor anything else preserved now. ur just copies coming out of the communist factory.

national identity is above religion u idiot. if muslims would not share the same identity the would have gone to pakistan in 1947, but they stayed out of their own choice. when pakistan attacked india, muslims fought against pakistan. such things are beyond the understanding of mules like u. know why? because u were programmed to be just like any other mule ur communist government manufactures...:D

as for a forum in hindi, since ur an idiot u will not understand that hindi is not the only language spoken in india. unlike china where if ur government asks u to eat s**t, u will eat it for the fear of ur life- in india hindi or english is not forced on anyone. its easier to maintain a forum in english with the php technology and thats why forums are in english. u wouldn't understand unicode and such terms so is no use explaining that to u dumbo...hihihi

you should have learn your history better, all those historical empires only cover part of india, for example, the mongolian mughal empire only rule the north part of india, the south part was never unified.

India was truely unified into a country by the british colonization. don't cheat yourself.

[Neo]

you should have learn your history better, all those historical empires only cover part of india, for example, the mongolian mughal empire only rule the north part of india, the south part was never unified.

India was truely unified into a country by the british colonization. don't cheat yourself.

now i ll need to learn indian history from a 4th grade uneducated chinese? haha...

i m sure u have not heard of ashoka, chandragupta maurya, akbar, aurenzeb and the likes. india has been a federal structure since ancient times. even in 300 BC there were governors in provinces unified under the central rule of the king at magadh.

the mughals came as intruders but were civilised by the calming nature of hinduism and buddhism and settled down making india their country. thats why the barbarian race of mongols ( temur lane and chengiz khan) also ultimately mingled and are now a part of indian diaspora.

u know what, ur too narrow minded to understand such things. don't try :) put back ur head where it should be and spare ur country the shame of having a citizen like u

[googleabcd]

as for a forum in hindi, since ur an idiot u will not understand that hindi is not the only language spoken in india. unlike china where if ur government asks u to eat s**t, u will eat it for the fear of ur life- in india hindi or english is not forced on anyone. its easier to maintain a forum in english with the php technology and thats why forums are in english. u wouldn't understand unicode and such terms so is no use explaining that to u dumbo...hihihi

Lol....most famous Chinese forums are using our own technologies. For example, more than 1 million Chinese websites/forums use the Discuz(www.discuz.com) system. It is developed by Chinese and supporting several types of languages.

All global TOP20 Chinese websites are written in Chinese.

None of global Internet companies can won the No.1 market share in China, including Google, MSN, Yahoo, and Ebay. They are all defeated by Chinese companies such as BaiDu, QQ , Sina, TaoBao, and Alibaba.

[Neo]

Lol....most famous Chinese forums are using our own technologies. For example, more than 1 million Chinese websites/forums use the Discuz(www.discuz.com) system. It is developed by Chinese and supporting several types of languages.

All global TOP20 Chinese websites are written in Chinese.

None of global Internet companies can won the No.1 market share in China, including Google, MSN, Yahoo, and Ebay. They are all defeated by Chinese companies such as BaiDu, QQ , Sina, TaoBao, and Alibaba.

to win in china there should be freedom for competition. google has to filter its results in china because of the chinese governments restrictive policies.

its normal to have chinese websites in china because most of the chinese don't speak or understand english. in india, people with access to internet are generally fluent in english. it's much easier to maintain a site in english using php than form a site in hindi or any other indian language.

its not a big deal to do that. if u guys read news u wd know that the chief architect of news.google.com is an indian.

global companies compete on a global scale, thats why no one outside china has heard of baidu, kaiku and jhinu...:D

[snower]

now i ll need to learn indian history from a 4th grade uneducated chinese? haha...

i m sure u have not heard of ashoka, chandragupta maurya, akbar, aurenzeb and the likes. india has been a federal structure since ancient times. even in 300 BC there were governors in provinces unified under the central rule of the king at magadh.

the mughals came as intruders but were civilised by the calming nature of hinduism and buddhism and settled down making india their country. thats why the barbarian race of mongols ( temur lane and chengiz khan) also ultimately mingled and are now a part of indian diaspora.

u know what, ur too narrow minded to understand such things. don't try :) put back ur head where it should be and spare ur country the shame of having a citizen like u

neo, as a dalit you always cheat yourself.

let me teach you agian: india was never totally unified before british colonization. all the historical empires only unified part of india.

grow up, naive man, dont't cheat yourself.

[Neo]

neo, as a dalit you always cheat yourself.

let me teach you agian: india was never totally unified before british colonization. all the historical empires only unified part of india.

grow up, naive man, dont't cheat yourself.

snower, even if i was a dalit, i consider chinese lower than me :)
i m sorry to disappoint you but I was born in a Brahmin family which historically is considered the highest class in india. nevertheless i am not narrow minded like you to consider dalits lower than any other man. u sound racist to me. that's funny, a mongoloid chinese mix race becomes aryan suddenly...hahaha....

open ur eyes dude ( oops...i forgot, ur probably born with half closed eyes,,)

hahaha...

[snower]

snower, even if i was a dalit, i consider chinese lower than me :)
..... u sound racist to me. that's funny, ....

hahaha...

you consider dalit higher than chinese,

and tell me i sounds racist,

who is the true racist ? haha..

typical indian IQ... what can i say?

neo, your posts entertain me everyday, hehe...

[Neo]

you consider dalit higher than chinese,

and tell me i sounds racist,

who is the true racist ? haha..

typical indian IQ... what can i say?

neo, your posts entertain me everyday, hehe...

first of all let's not talk of IQ because i have proved many times that u don't even have a brain.

i m not racist. racist is when u bias against humans. if china has creatures like u i don't think i can be called racist...lolz...

unless of course 2mrw all the donkeys of the world start claiming they suffer racial discrimination at the hands of man...:)

u think i m less amused by seeing ur idiotic posts...makes me very happy...before i met chinese like u...i only had don't give a damn attitude to china and chinese...

after talking to u, i actively think that chinese population is just like a colony of ants, no brains, doing what the queen ant- ur polit bureau asks u to do..:)

i never had any respect for chinese but now its plain ridicule...ur just a bunch of jokers as far as i m concerned...:D

[Kabir]

Hello Snower,

what can i say?

Exactly!!! Don't say!!! Keep shut!!!!!
Go brush your teeth. YUCK!!! You smell bad.
Try listrine mouth wash, it heps kill bacteria that causes bad breath.

Cheers

[Kabir]

Hello Hbrant,

It amazing how entire populations get influenced by the worldwide trends of today. India is at the proverbial crossroads. Does it become more "westernised" or keep its traditional culture?

I don't need to read URLs to know my country's tradition. Our tradition has been always to accept good things from where ever we can. We are Dynamic people who have learnt and utilized what ever we could from past, to the benefit of our country.

I also know that Chinese culture teaches RESPECT for all to be of utmost importance. But YOU, somewhere have forgoton it, it seems. So please go and take a lesson in respect from your mother first. You need to find your identity first. Then, come here and talk to us.

Happy Day.:)

[snower]

Hello Snower,



Exactly!!! Don't say!!! Keep shut!!!!!
Go brush your teeth. YUCK!!! You smell bad.
Try listrine mouth wash, it heps kill bacteria that causes bad breath.

Cheers

wow! you sound really turned on, haha... laughable.

wash your left hand before you type the post, indian, your post stinks.

[Neo]

Hello Hbrant,



I don't need to read URLs to know my country's tradition. Our tradition has been always to accept good things from where ever we can. We are Dynamic people who have learnt and utilized what ever we could from past, to the benefit of our country.

I also know that Chinese culture teaches RESPECT for all to be of utmost importance. But YOU, somewhere have forgoton it, it seems. So please go and take a lesson in respect from your mother first. You need to find your identity first. Then, come here and talk to us.

Happy Day.:)

well said kabir, well said. the chinese are supposed to be decent ppl. the one's here are the bad bloods i guess...

[snower]

has india an identity?

Do you, neo, as a dalit, share the same identity with other castes?

don't cheat yourself. everyone konw the Assam people don't identify themselves as indian.

[Neo]

has india an identity?

Do you, neo, as a dalit, share the same identity with other castes?

don't cheat yourself. everyone konw the Assam people don't identify themselves as indian.

oh, the same story again. why are you so dumb snower?
do u as a mongolian chinese mongrel share the same identity as a tibetan? if so why they want to separate from you?

leave tibet, what about taiwan? they are chinese but still they don't want to be with you, is that true? :)

may be beacause they are pure blood chinese unlike you who is a mongrel..lol..

[chinesemilitaryfan]

NEO, when you talk about the affairs about china,pls check your india first.
India is famous for the bombing and killing events. Look at the heavy armed policemen and the pillboxs with machinegun on your street. You pretend you are from a peaful country which is actually one of the most chaotic countries in the world. You are really funny.Pls,go back from your dream to the real world.

[rohit khaitan]

Hey these guys are just pests. No matter what post. no matter what topic. He and his breed comes here with shit on his tongue. May why dont u start a separate thread that how much i hate india. Get everyone from your community and discuss whatever u want.

Why do u have to spill ur shit all over the place. Either discuss the topic or go away from here morons.

[snower]

Hey these guys are just pests. No matter what post. no matter what topic. He and his breed comes here with shit on his tongue. May why dont u start a separate thread that how much i hate india. Get everyone from your community and discuss whatever u want.

Why do u have to spill ur shit all over the place. Either discuss the topic or go away from here morons.

abusing just shows your weakness, :rolleyes:

[rohit khaitan]

Dont expect me to argue with u man. I dont throw a stone in a puddle of mud.

And yes i fully agree that abusing shows ur weakness. Go all over the forum and read all ur posts. And please keep me out of this. I dont think we r on a common platfrom to discuss anything.

[snower]

Dont expect me to argue with u man. I dont throw a stone in a puddle of mud.

And yes i fully agree that abusing shows ur weakness. Go all over the forum and read all ur posts. And please keep me out of this. I dont think we r on a common platfrom to discuss anything.

seems my post educate you a little bit, you stop abusing in the last post.

that's good. keep on progressing, ;)

[Neo]

NEO, when you talk about the affairs about china,pls check your india first.
India is famous for the bombing and killing events. Look at the heavy armed policemen and the pillboxs with machinegun on your street. You pretend you are from a peaful country which is actually one of the most chaotic countries in the world. You are really funny.Pls,go back from your dream to the real world.

my country has bombs from islamic terrorists and machine guns on streets to protect its citizens...look at urs...u had tanks on the streets of beijing to kill ur own students...:)

as i said, the day u ll learn to introspect u will stop posting stupid comments on forums..

[chinesemilitaryfan]

The bombs in india are not only from islamic terrorists, my friend. There are many kind of terrorist forces in india. That's why I call it "one of the most chaotic countries in the world".
There were tanks in beijing,but now we even can not see armed policemen. Do you still live in 1989?No wonder your brain is so out-of-date.
I am very happy that you waked up eventually and came back to the real world and started to realize indian people even now are still killing inidan people.

[rohit khaitan]

seems my post educate you a little bit, you stop abusing in the last post.

that's good. keep on progressing, ;)

Whats ur age?? oops hwo old is ur brain??

[rohit khaitan]

The bombs in india are not only from islamic terrorists, my friend. There are many kind of terrorist forces in india. That's why I call it "one of the most chaotic countries in the world".
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Yes bombs in india are not from all the islamic countries. Some are supplied by china as well. Of course u route it through pakistan. You must be proud that u r a nation that also manufactures bombs to kill innocent people.


There were tanks in beijing,but now we even can not see armed policemen.
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Is your government less then a policeman? Look around all your govt offices are police stations only.

Do you still live in 1989?No wonder your brain is so out-of-date.I am very happy that you waked up eventually and came back to the real world and started to realize indian people even now are still killing inidan people.

What do u have to say about ujghurs in Xinjiang and their claim of west turkestan. The chinese govt claims there had been 260 terrorist attacks by them so far. (And rest assured ur chinese govt would have removed a zero from 2600 to make it 260)

What do u have to say about international tibet independence movement.

And tiwanese independent movement which adovcates abondoning "one china" farce.

And Inner Mongolian People's Party — Which advocates freedom, democracy and human rights for the Mongols in Inner Mongolia currently under Chinese colonial rule.

Are chinese killing chinese too. Or is it a part of a system that has millions of people and some of them not very happy with the system.

[observer]

There are secessionist movements in many countries of the world. India is no more chaotic than any other country. China's government censors news of its public disturbances a lot more than India which is why we know more about the violence in India than in China.

In China there are disturbances because of all the factors mentioned by rohit and also because of peasant unrest at their neglect by growing capitalisation there. Plus I would call China's communist government the biggest terrorist force since it has killed so many of its own people and created terror in their hearts.

[Neo]

The bombs in india are not only from islamic terrorists, my friend. There are many kind of terrorist forces in india. That's why I call it "one of the most chaotic countries in the world".
There were tanks in beijing,but now we even can not see armed policemen. Do you still live in 1989?No wonder your brain is so out-of-date.
I am very happy that you waked up eventually and came back to the real world and started to realize indian people even now are still killing inidan people.

of course, there are 3 kind of terrorist forces in india.
1. islamic-the biggest problem
2. naxalites - ur cousins fighting for an impossible communist rule in india :)
3. north east - ur proteges fighting for nothing just because china feeds them with arms and money

i don't consider any of these indians, they are traitors. rohit raised some very good points about the unrest in china which ur government puts down with strong arm. will u call this killing of chinese by chinese as well?

of course not coz ur insect brain is biased too ...:D

as i said the day u chinese will learn to introspect, u ll learn to keep ur dirty mouth shut and ur stupid ideas in ur brain. only recently was a news on CNN about ur government jailing pro vatican catholics celebrating christmas secretly.
man u don't have freedom of religion, who gave u the right to talk about chaos? ur just slaves in ur own country doing exactly what ur asked to do

[snower]

of course, there are 3 kind of terrorist forces in india.
1. islamic-the biggest problem
2. naxalites - ur cousins fighting for an impossible communist rule in india :)
3. north east - ur proteges fighting for nothing just because china feeds them with arms and money

i don't consider any of these indians, they are traitors. rohit raised some very good points about the unrest in china which ur government puts down with strong arm. will u call this killing of chinese by chinese as well?

of course not coz ur insect brain is biased too ...:D

as i said the day u chinese will learn to introspect, u ll learn to keep ur dirty mouth shut and ur stupid ideas in ur brain. only recently was a news on CNN about ur government jailing pro vatican catholics celebrating christmas secretly.
man u don't have freedom of religion, who gave u the right to talk about chaos? ur just slaves in ur own country doing exactly what ur asked to do

neo again is desperately throwing out dirty words, hehe...

personal attack is of very low taste, indian, grow up. don't let chinese laugh you. :rolleyes:

[chinesemilitaryfan]

i don't consider any of these indians, they are traitors.
My friend ,don't hide your small head in sands.They are all indians who are killing indian. If your excuse is acceptable,then I will say all the people killed by chinese goverment are not chinese they are all traitors. You are so funny.
You learned it so fast to apply double-standard.But such kind of practice will only work with powerful country and people.You and your country are not.

[Neo]

My friend ,don't hide your small head in sands.They are all indians who are killing indian. If your excuse is acceptable,then I will say all the people killed by chinese goverment are not chinese they are all traitors. You are so funny.
You learned it so fast to apply double-standard.But such kind of practice will only work with powerful country and people.You and your country are not.

well of all the people if chinese talk about double standards thats really funny :)
does the world now need lessons on unity from a country which till today is a split nation with two nations? lolz...joke of the millenium.

ur 1949 civil war split ur country into two. ur still trying to make it one. stop throwing stones on others homes when u have a house of glass urself mr insect brain

[chinesemilitaryfan]

We are talking about the terrorist ,but you switch it to taiwan issue. I see you realized you are not qualified to talk the terrorist since you are suffering from it. Next time,when you are going to raise up some topics,pls use your brain to think about it first,OK? The speed of your typing is always faster than the speed of your brain,
Taiwanese don't put bombs in mainland,mainland people don't put bombs in taiwan.
This is the fact that we have no bombing and we are all living peacful life. look at your hopeless ....

[Neo]

We are talking about the terrorist ,but you switch it to taiwan issue. I see you realized you are not qualified to talk the terrorist since you are suffering from it. Next time,when you are going to raise up some topics,pls use your brain to think about it first,OK? The speed of your typing is always faster than the speed of your brain,
Taiwanese don't put bombs in mainland,mainland people don't put bombs in taiwan.
This is the fact that we have no bombing and we are all living peacful life. look at your hopeless ....

u live a peaceful life? u call that a life? i call that slavery. we have problems with terrorists yes but these are terrorist sponsored by foreign nations, pakistan in kashmir and china in assam.
what excuse do u have for the civil wars u had? i don't think there was any foreign instigation. if ur in so much peace why u feel the need to threaten taiwan with ur military exercises?
as i have repeatedly said, ur just a narrow minded hypocrite nothing more